1959 Buick Window Frames & Glass – Installation and Alignment

February 2nd, 2010

When it came to side glass installation nothing was quite as straightforward as it may seem…especially when using remanufactured and reconditioned parts. In my case all the rubber was shot, the original glass was delaminating and scratched, and the bottom of the front window frames were rusted through. I therefore needed all new glass, rubber, and window frames and also had to rechrome other parts where necessary. This all presents it own challenges as evidenced by the below e-mail I received from Greg.

“I took a good look at the glass and window frames and ordered the correct glass tape today. Due to the fact that the repop glass and rubber is a different thickness, the repop frames are a bit different, and the rechrome frames “grow” with the new plating I have to measure each individual piece of glass and frame to get correct thickness of tape. This stuff comes in 1/64″ increments and it’s best to have the “just right” thickness.”

Of course, after installing the glass into the frames, lots of prep work was necessary before Greg could even think about installing the finished pieces into the car. All six of the power window motors (fronts, rears and vents) had to be tested, greased and oiled, and all the window regulators, tracks, hardware, felt, etc, had to be installed and aligned.

One of the known problems with all 59-60 big body GM convertibles is that the pot metal rear quarter window frames bow and eventually break.  The problem is that the rear quarter windows do not raise and lower in a straight line as do the front door windows.  The rear quarters rotate up and down, meaning that when the windows are lowered from the raised position the top front edge pivots toward the rear of the car and completely rotates backward into the body.  From the open position, the top edge emerges from body and rotates forward.  When raising the windows with the convertible top up, the front edge of the window rubs against the convertible top weather-stripping throughout its upward travel.  This contact places tremendous stress on the window frame (especially if the top has new or tight sealing weather-stripping).  After years of use the pot metal frame starts to bow from the pressure and then one day it just breaks in half.  I guess the best way to preserve these frames is to never raise the rear windows when the top is up…but then raising the convertible top over the raised rear windows presents its own challenges.  It’s also not practical if you just want to open and close the rear windows without lowering the top.

One of the frames broke on my last E-225 Conv’t as did one on Joe’s car.  The only known source for replacement 1959-1960 Buick Electra 225, Oldsmobile 98 and all Cadillac convertible rear window frames (they are all the identical part) is Mike Aldana (760-357-0713) who machines perfect steel (not pot metal) reproductions that will never again break.

Having restored 59 Caddy’s with the identical frame, Greg was aware of the problem and noticed that the frames on my car were beginning to bow…so he fabricated a simple reinforcing brace to prevent further bowing and ensure they will never break. Below is a picture of Joe’s broken frame that had to be chucked as well as my frame with the brace Greg installed.

Based on the detailed e-mails I received, I guess installing and aligning the side glass and top frame when using remanufactured parts from different manufactures can be a little tricky…good thing Greg is up for the challenge. Here are a few excerpts from the progress reports I received during the process.

“The top frame looks okay, but not just right yet. Nice clearance on the right quarter window but not enough clearance on the left. So, what does this mean??? WELL! When I put the header bow back onto the side frames I went by the original bolt marks. Always a good place to start. Before I installed the windows I raised the top to the “up” position. The alignment pins fell in perfectly! Score one point! But NOW it’s a different game. I have to pull the left side of the top frame back to get clearance at the left quarter window. I need a good 1/2″ to get the rubber in there. That will whack out the header bow alignment. No big, I can change the header bow adjustment on the left side, thus lengthening the top frame, but only on the left side. That should do it.

BUT, there might be a better way. There is a bit more gap at the front of the left vent window frame than on the right. I can shim the cowl on the left thus bringing the top of the windshield frame back. This might just be enough. Hard to say, but I will have a REAL good look at it tomorrow.”

And the next morning…

“The gap at the front of the left vent window frame isn’t perfect yet. It’s “okay” but I would like it to be a bit tighter. Problem is if I shim the cowl and bring the top of the windshield frame back it also moves the bottom edge of the windshield frame down at the back corner. There is a real nice uniform gap between the bottom edge of the windshield frame and the door right now.”

And later the same day…

“I got to looking at it some more. For some reason the right side just fell in place. Well, not exactly “fell” but it was fine. The left side is a bit of a problem but after the third or fourth or whatever look I can see that the quarter window is too high in the back. I can drop it down just a shade and adjust the upstop. This will put the front edge in a very slight “leaning back” mode. This will increase the gap from the door window to the quarter by a small amount at the bottom but quite a bit at the top. I will drop the back edge of the door window to match the quarter window. This will make a gap from the door window glass to the vent window division bar. I will then roll the vent window assembly back still using the factory pilot hole thus filling the gap. This will make the gap between the vent window frame and windshield frame moulding uniform.

In short, it will fit better and look better and it’s quite possible that I won’t even have to change the top frame length! It’s no biggie at all to adjust top frame length but if I can make it come together on the original factory marks I always feel it’s a better job. That is IF the car was right to begin with!”

Although not finalized yet, here are a few shots of the window installation progress…

___________________

~ T om Sidoti
1959 Buick Electra 225 Convertible

1959 Buick Power Vent Windows Option

February 1st, 2010

Restoration of the vent windows is a bit more complex than first meets the eye…

Ta dah…

One of the few options this car was not ordered from the factory with was Power Vent Windows.  Since several sources sell the motors, wiring and switches to make the conversion, this is perhaps one of the most useful, easiest, and least expensive options to add.  Below is a picture of one such kit showing the necessary parts…

Although these conversion kits are being marketed as fitting any 1959/1960 GM vehicle, this is not the case.  While the same motors and switches were used throughout the GM line, there are differences in the wiring harnesses between the makes so a bit of modification may be necessary.  We also had to keep in mind that the switches cannot be properly installed in the same holes used by the standard vent window crank handles.  This meant that the new door panels had to be ordered without the holes for the vent window cranks.  It should also be pointed out that although the switches in these kits look original, they are usually cheap reproductions that don’t have nearly the same feel or quality so we had to find NOS switches to make things right.

1959 Convertible Top Frame

February 1st, 2010

Work on the convertible top frame is continuing to move along.  Greg splashed a little paint on all the convertible top supports…

The Top Irons have come back from the Plater…

…and below are a few sequence shots of the convertible top frame coming together:

All new pump, top cylinders and hose set came from Hydro-E-Lectric (www.hydroe.com)

Here’s the new Pump Motor is back in its rightful home…

New Top Cylinders and Hoses are looking good…

Going Down…

The wiring is also progressing. Greg cleaned up the original harness and after going over every inch of it decided it was still in overall excellent condition. I got the following report:

“I did some further evaluation on wiring harnesses today. So far so good. On the body harness the only thing I saw was that the plug at the power top switch is burnt. I’ll fix that. The rest of the power window harness looks pretty good other than the usual problem in the door jamb area. The harness looked just fine on the outside but as you can see in the picture that the insulation is cracked. From previous experience I know all about that game! You can’t hide from the old Cook!”

Here are a few shots….

Here is a close up of the burnt plug for the power top switch…

And another of the cracked insulation at the door jamb…

Starting to bring the wiring into the engine compartment…

The seats are also moving along… check out the bottom springs on one of the buckets

Here’s a close up of the original tag…

Also received the custom-dyed leather hyde from SMS along with a roll of matching vinyl…

All loaded up for delivery to the upholsterer…

Well, the end of another installment…I think I can begin to see a faint glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel!

_________________
~ Tom Sidoti
1959 Buick Electra 225 Convertible

Wheel Covers and So Much More…

February 1st, 2010

Well, the big news is Greg has finally installed the wheel covers Very Happy

…and even threw a few parts into the engine bay like wipers and A/C housings

The dash is moving right along…the old firewall insulator was a mess so a new one came from Quite Ride Solutions (http://www.quietride.com/).  A good quality  firewall insulator is a necessity to prevent  engine heat and noise.

The nasty non-working power antenna was sent out to Klaus Wojak (828-898-9338) for a rebuild…

…and came back with a shiny new shaft and hopefully nicely working innards…

Also got some new chrome back…now that’s a horn ring…

The new date-coded EZ-Eye tinted windshield and all the bright moldings are installed. We used a “Steele” windshield gasket that Greg said fit just fine…

Now on to the door…chrome, stainless and hardware…

I asked Greg the steps to line up the doors, windows and front end and got the following reply…

“First thing is to rough the door adjustment. The next step is to install the vent window assemblies. Then install the door glass and the quarter window glass. Once those 6 pieces line up properly check and see where the cowl is. Hopefully the vent windows will have a nice gap to the back side of the windshield frame. Only then can the final adjustment on the door be made. It’s a long process when a car is totally blown apart, you have to do it in the correct sequence otherwise it’s one step forward, two steps back and it never fits anyway.

Next up is the top frame, Sometimes its hard to get two doors, six windows, and a top frame with a mind of it’s own to play together in a friendly manner. Big problem is that you can make perfect adjustments between the window frames and the top frames and temporarily install the top rubbers and get a perfect fit. BUT when you put on the top fabric and pull it tight it upsets those adjustments! See how much fun this is??? Smile But not to worry, I can make it happen, just takes time to sort it all out.

The fenders come last, adjusted to the doors. Ideally there should be a slight gap between the front of the rocker panel and the rear edge of the fender. That’s a good starting point. Then you shim the radiator support up or down to get a nice even gap up the front edge of the door. But don’t get ahead of yourself here! you still have to get that hood into the opening and have an even fit across the front edge. See, this is easy!

It’s not rocket science but it’s a matter of getting everybody working together. As the old story goes, for every action there is a reaction. Pretty much the same here. Move a panel to make a nice gap, something else changes. It’s just patience patience patience. I’ve seen some potentially beautiful cars that were just crap because of bad fits. Some things just can’t be helped, but windows, doors and front ends can usually be made to work with patience.”

Whew!
________________

~ Tom Sidoti
1959 Buick Electra 225 Convertible